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ThanksI have a couple plants that aren't looking good....not all but just a couple and need to head this off before it gets out of hand. I find no trace of insects on the plant itself but when I scope the soil (both on top and sides of pot when I take the rootball out) I find these things making their way around. I haven't been able to ID...is anyone familiar with what they could be? This is what the worst plant looks like. Promix HP feeding GH Maxi series at 1.3 EC pH ~ 6.8 using soft tap water and citric acid / agisil16 to adjust pH. I did foliar feed Cal-Mag a week ago when the symptoms started getting worse. This particular plant got chopped last night as I only wanted cuttings from it and it is backed up already. Looked so bad I settled for the one rooted cutting and composted the mom. Any thoughts? Thanks and have a great weekend!

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I would be removing those containers also and discard....start treating the rest even if you dont see them with azmax or neem oil

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Thanks for the quick reply @Hoosier Daddy Genetics ,lucky that I am in no immediate need to flower anything so I can eliminate all the extra plants other than the moms and focus on their health. 

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imiubu

I had root aphids once and that is once too many.  They're bastards 😮  I wanted to identify yours as aphids also yet

I don't recall those spiny little hairs on mine though, so I didn't say anything at first.  Most folks here have a ton more

experience than I so, I won't offend by offering advice and simply share what I did.  My garden was hydro when I

was attacked, using 4 in rock wool cubes and not soil fwiw.  I used predatory Nematodes.  After just the first

application I scoped the cubes top and bottom and was amazed at the reduction of crawlies.  Each day there

were less and less live critters and what remained of the dead was just a sucked out shell.  I did finally cull the

larger plants after taking cuts.  I have not had them since nor do I want them again or would wish them on my

worst enemy.

 

Best of luck.

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unregistered190

Good to hear the nematodes worked for you @imiubu , I have a couple places bookmarked that ship those overnight. 

 

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Captainmorgan

Good luck, they are a nightmare to kill off and a lot of work. Last time I got them I took cuttings and took them to another location and once they rooted killed the garden.

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Captainmorgan

I actually beat them the first time I got root aphids but it was a single large plant half way through flower. What I learned was even if you can beat them the plant suffers so much damage that yield and quality are way off,  I used BTI and nematodes and did daily treatments.

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unregistered190

I have one more plant to toss as soon as I get roots on a clone of gg4, then I hope I am good going forward. 

 

 

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Captainmorgan

Bug problems seem to have gotten worse the last few years. I believe many of them arrive in the bags of soil you purchase, I think demand has cause companies to take short cuts on composting time. I now sterilize my soil and store it in 50 gallon pickle barrels with the screw top lids. When I use it I reintroduce microbes, BTI and nematodes.

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Slick rick

One thing I like about Flora flex pots is they have feet so they sit up off the tray!If u told me two years ago I would be washing my Coco pots I would of told u no way bugs everywhere

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12 hours ago, Captainmorgan said:

Bug problems seem to have gotten worse the last few years. I believe many of them arrive in the bags of soil you purchase, I think demand has cause companies to take short cuts on composting time. I now sterilize my soil and store it in 50 gallon pickle barrels with the screw top lids. When I use it I reintroduce microbes, BTI and nematodes.

 

Thats some great advice!

 

I’m dealing with aphids,  that I got from store bought soil. The one and only grow shop in town closed so now I’m trying to find a new source. And in that I tried a bag of promix and that’s when all my problems started. I have now got a new source for my ocean forest but I let it cook a week before I use it. 

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56 minutes ago, zoot said:

 

Thats some great advice!

 

I’m dealing with aphids,  that I got from store bought soil. The one and only grow shop in town closed so now I’m trying to find a new source. And in that I tried a bag of promix and that’s when all my problems started. I have now got a new source for my ocean forest but I let it cook a week before I use it. 

 

Most people give me that look when I tell them, you know the look lol. I use a large microwave with a glass bowl that barely fits into it and add a 6 ozs of water and nuke for 10-12 minutes on high. I used a barbecue thermometer to make sure the center temp was high enough then into the barrel. I also mounted a T5 with a HTG Agromax Pure UV bulb inside my duct work that circulates the air through the different areas of my gro, kills mold spores.

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sorry for posting in here and about it being about a different pest, just not sure where to ask.

 

any one know what this is ?.

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see through worm about 1/2 long, i got a 1 minute vid but have no idea how to post it..

 

 

@unregistered190

 

again really sorry to drop this in your thread.

 

 

 

 

peace  ..

 

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unregistered190

Google fungus gnat larvae @JAWS if that’s what they are mosquito dunks help. Top dress with gnat-nix which prevents them from coming up out of the soil as fliers.

 

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i know those shits well really do not think this is what that is, there larva is worm but not near as big as what i'm seeing...been keeping this grow dryer then normal to help produce some better root growth so that should be an issues for the gnat's...

 

will water them next time out with a good dose of neem oil just to further help with any issues coming from them...

 

 

 

 

thank you  ..

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Tynehead Tom

 

could they could be some kind of nematode?

 

or they could be Enchytraeidae, which are annelids, and belong to the same phylum as earthworms. Could be potworms specifically, which are generally found in compost bins because they live in highly organic environments.

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4 hours ago, JAWS said:

sorry for posting in here and about it being about a different pest, just not sure where to ask.

 

any one know what this is ?.

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see through worm about 1/2 long, i got a 1 minute vid but have no idea how to post it..

 

 

@unregistered190

 

again really sorry to drop this in your thread.

 

 

 

 

peace  ..

 

 

 

I think there Pot worms....LMAO...no joke..

https://www.gardeningknowhow.com/composting/basics/pot-worms-in-compost.htm

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Tynehead Tom

I'm even more convinced it's Potworm by comparing your pics to others

here is an excellent article

https://www.allaboutworms.com/pot-worms-classic-soil-inhabitants

 

to figure out if it is just pot worms, place a pot in a catch tray and put a piece of bread soaked in milk on the soil surface and pieces beside the run off holes of your pot.

The worms will attack the bread in numbers if they are in fact potworms.

The pretty much behave just like earthworms eating fungus and bacteria as well as feasting on nematodes.

They should not be harmful to your plants.

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@Tynehead Tom

 

ya those are more like what i'm seeing here, just see through worms with no dark head on either end like a gnat larva would have...i fill a bit better now for-sure. those really fit what i'm seeing over here..

 

 

 

 

thank you  ..

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Ive ran into this running living soil before...got to wet...pot worms and then like @unregistered190 fungus gnat larvae will be right behind...might want to get a BTI dealer on speed dial ready..Goodluck!

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@Hoosier Daddy Genetics

 

ya i hear ya guys but damn i have been keeping these pots really dry, like 1/4 gallon per pot and 5 days in between watering and the pot's you can pick up with a single finger...i was getting worried i was letting them dry out to much, never left them wilt over but ya there really pretty dry....i have no gnat issues at the moment have top sprayed my soil with neem oil and i have coated my plant's entirely with a neem spray just a few days ago, mainly to keep them nice and shiny but also to deter any flying gnats..

 

i will stay on it to see if things change over the next 5-7 days, i just watered yesterday and i'll let them dry until probably Friday and they only got 1/4 gallon of water in 4 gallon pot..not seeing any issues with the plant's in the bottles over in the 4x4 tent being ran under a single 400..

 

 

 

 

peace  ..

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does any one have a link to bug's mites flyers that are good for our plant's ??..i see lot's of links and pics of those types that are bad for our plant's, would love to see a list or link to things that are good for a change..

 

 

 

 

thank's  ..

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