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On 9/1/2018 at 9:47 AM, Oldproseeds said:

Such a clean gardener!

 

Good work brother.....i am getting a bit tired to be that clean...... 😉

All good in here!!!

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Thanks brother Oldpro, hope the sandy peninsula is treating you and yours well this year. I try to keep my gardens as clean as time allows...sometimes not so clean as others.

18 hours ago, gorilla ganja said:

A few yellow leafs help to blend in better with the native plants.

 

Just be sure to pull the males 5-6 weeks before you intend to harvest. No use having the plants devote energy to immature seeds.

 

Best of luck for a strong finish @Kind024

 

Peace GG

 

 

 

 

 Thank brother GG, yeah most of the vegetation around here, unless manually watered, is yellow dry or dead. The plants and pots are pretty camouflage at this point.

 

Thanks for the heads up on pulling the males. That will be pretty soon then. I imagine about another 6-7 weeks for the ladies, or as long as the weather permits. I was planning to leave the ladies till frost threatens. The plants are loaded with seeds/forming seeds already. I'll do one last manual dusting later this week then chop the boys.

 

I hope they finish well too. Mostly for the shelf life of the seeds. The last two days they were sprayed with a worm casting/frass/aloe solution. It was aerated all together for about 6 hours. The plants responded well to that. They may be greener this morning. The last topdress of soil was recent so that should be helping too. I'll keep spraying the casting/frass/aloe solution a couple times a week till the final weeks. 

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Greetings to the Lab community, I hope all of you and yours are flossing regularly.

 

A few updates on the seed plants outside.

9/1/18, 3 gallons of clean water, 2 cups worm castings, 1/3 cups mealworm frass and 1/4 cups fresh aloe leaf was aerated for 6 hours. It was strained through a muslin bag and sprayed with a pump sprayer at low pressure with a high flow noozle.

 

9/4/18, The males were chopped.

 

9/5/18, 3.5 gallons of clean water, 3 cups worm castings, 3/8 cups frass, 1/4 cups fresh aloe leaf and 1 tsp of molasses was aerated for 5 hours. Strained and sprayed same as last.

 

9/9/18, Some pond water was sprayed on the plants to rinse the flowers of the tea residue. I was hoping for some rain to do that. Now early this morning it rained pretty good so i'm going to spray some more tea tonight...idk if they are still considered a tea at this point or more of a nutrient slurry?

 

9/11/19, 3.5 gallons of clean water, 2 cups worm castings, 1/4 cup frass and 3/8 cup fresh aloe leaf will be aerated for 6 hours and applied the same way as the others. Before the aloe leaf is added to the these slurries/teas it's blended well with a few cups of water...the whole leaf portion goes in along with the outer skin.

 

9/11/18, Photos from this morning.

#P.

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#D.

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#F. This is the one that wasn't ready to go last round. She had to go outside to replace the one eaten by the chickens. There is still a copy in veg. She's very slow to veg and she likes the 1k MH over the fluorescents. She has a different smell profile than the rest of her siblings. Kind of like the creamy sweetness of a Now and Later or soft toffee candies. I'll wash her leftovers for a hash sample. 

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This is the Noodle x Purple Gogi f3. I think she is an outstanding cultivar but I could be bias. She needs to get out to a couple folks for opinions yet...(lets see if I can remember how the Noodle came to be...a while ago Swampthing from BBay crossed a Potrero Hill Ortega NL cut with a Clusterfunk male. Than Strayfox selected a female he dubbed Miss Stinky from some of those seeds gifted from swampthing. He dusted Miss Stinky with some pollen from a skunk va leaning male selected from Clusterfunk remix. I was blessed to test some of those seeds in '14. A female was found that was worth her weight...couldn't grow enough to supply her demand. That sounds about right.) A cut was given to some folks in Portland and they dubbed it stumptown diesel as they felt Noodle wasn't a catchy shelf name. Anyways, I grew some Purple Gogi f3's Bodhi released in late '15 or early '16. A couple males took forever to show in veg, over 80 days. One of these males had a little green stamen. That stamen was smushed into a flower of the Noodle while she was in early bloom. One viable seed came from that, this is it. She is totally different than mom. She runs past 80 days indoors with a nice sour berry smell and taste. Very heady with a warm hug for support. Idk if she will totally finish outside but she will have plenty of viable seeds. Some will go out with the second generation Black Triangle seeds...the universe willing. Our fall can be very trying on late season finishing plants. Cold and rainy. I'm sure they're will be plenty of seeds to play with at the end of the season either way.

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The yellowing seems to have slowed while the flowers are holding color. Regular foliar sprays should keep them healthy till harvest.

 

peace,

 

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Nice did u keep the purple goji bro I had all three clone now I only have pine Sol wish I would of held onto the the purple goji thrive really help everyone by grab them cuts an passing them to the community

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On 9/12/2018 at 7:18 AM, Slick rick said:

Nice did u keep the purple goji bro I had all three clone now I only have pine Sol wish I would of held onto the the purple goji thrive really help everyone by grab them cuts an passing them to the community

 

Sorry bro...neither parents are with me anymore. I was shutting down that room at that time and moving to a farm for an internship and couldn't hold anything while there. A buddy held the mom for a while but had no use for the males. I was running for flowers and had to split everything with a roommate at the time. There wasn't room for personal projects unless they were producing...

 

I had no idea the gogi line held anything like that...wish I would have kept them now.

 

The noodle x gogi is worth a shake. I'll run off a tray of them if anyone has a place for them to go? ...in the community of course.

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Greetings to the Lab community. Hope everyone is having a good one. The weather has been gentle so far. The plant are happy and should finish well.

 

Notes~

9/13/18, Foliar spray was applied. 3.5 gallons of water, 1/2 cup kelp meal, 1/2 cup alfalfa and 2 TBS of oyster shell flour was aerated/agitated for 46 hours. At hour 44 or 2 hours before application 1/4 cup of fresh aloe leaf was added.

 

9/15/18, A foliar spray was applied. 3.5 gallons of water, 3/8 cup frass and 3/8 cup fresh aloe leaf was aerated/agitated for 6 hours. It was strained through a fine mesh colander which let most of the frass and ectoskeleton through. After the spray dried the frass was dusted all over the leaves and flowers. However that didn't stay long as the rain had it's own plans.

 

9/19/18, Another foliar spray was applied. 3.5 gallons of water and 1 cup of kelp was areated for 48 hours then strained well. 1/4 cup frass was added directly to the strained kelp solution. It went in fresh and unstrained...still playing around with ideas. 3/8 cups of fresh aloe leaf was blended well with some water and added after it was strained of the leftover aloe bits. Lastly it's mixed well before spraying and I shake it constantly while spraying. I sprayed some of this on the indoor plants and they pulled in color over night.

 

9/20/18, Plant photos were taken late morning today.

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Black Triangle #F. She grows well outside. She has a sweet spot of real estate too. It gets the earliest kiss from the sun as it comes over the mountain.

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Black Triangle #B. She's really coming around outside too. Smells of sweets and subtle lemons.

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Noodle x Gogi f3. 

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Some Black Triangle cobs getting ready for the 3 month cure. I went with a 24 hour sweat at 104F, 8 days of incubation at 78F - 80F. Then they were taken out of the vacume bags and dried for a week before they went back in. Then they went into a cool dark closet. They will sit for 3 months. I may test some after two. This is my first attempt and I had trouble with the seals on two of the bags and the cobs went sour. It didn't take long during the ferment either. It was less then 12 hours from the last time I had checked them. The rest of them turned out smelling really sweet, more than the curing flowers.

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peace,

 

 

 

 

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Greetings to the Lab community, I hope everone is happy and healthy.

 

 

The season is wrapping up around here and the outdoor plants are right on time.

 

Notes~

9/23/18, Foliar spray... 3.5 gallons of water and 1.5 cups worm castings was aerated for 8 total hours. 3/8 cup BSF frass was added at the 7 hour mark. 3/8 cup of pureed/blended aloe was added at the end. Everything was mixed together well and strained through a muslin bag.

 

9/24/18, Each plant up on the hill was top dressed with 1/4 cup of BSF frass.

 

9/26/18, Foliar spray... 3.5 gallons of water, 1.5 cups worm castings, 2 TBS of oyster shell flour,  1 TBS kelp meal and 1 TBS of BSF frass was aerated for 8 hours. Than 3/8 cup pureed aloe  was stirred in and everything was strained. 1/4 cup mealworm frass was added at the very end and was left unstrained.

 

9/29/18, Foliar spray... 1 cup of kelp meal was hydrated for 48 hours in 1/2 gallon of water, shaking well a few times each day. 3/4 of the hydrated kelp mix was added to 3.5 gallons of water along with 2 TBS of BSF frass. This was aerated for 6 hours then strained. Then 3/8 cups fresh aloe leaf was blended, strained and added. After that 2 TBS of mealworm frass was added unstrained.

 

10/10/18, It was over cast and rained for the last 7 days while I was away. I'm told all the plants were clean after 6 days of rain. I came up after 7 days of rain and no sunshine to a few small spots of Botrytis. It was only on the most finished plants, two spots on #L and a little spot on #W, both plants are next to each other. Any branches with botrytis were cut off and discarded. 

 

10/10/18, Images captured.

#L, Half the plant finished early...so half was cut down. 

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The couple spots of Botrytis, both from #L.

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10/12/18, All the below pictures were captured. 

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#D.

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#E.

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#W.

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Noodle x Boysenberry (Gogi f3).  

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About 80% (about 85% on from a finished flower of #L) of the seeds are fully mature at this point. I'd like to leave the plants out for another 10 days or so if the weather is willing but I won't take any chances with another rain spell. It's supposed to be clear skys and rain free for the next week. There are a lot of viable seeds already and I won't risk losing them for a couple more. The plants will start getting chopped at the first sign of rain. The bunch of seeds below are from a little branch off #L that was cut on 10/10. Thats about 61 mature seeds on the left and 11 imature on the right. 7 of those imature seeds will probably germinate too.

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peace,

 

 

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Greetings everyone, I hope you and yours are havings a good one.

 

 

 

This season has been a good one! All the plants are down and hanging.

 

The weather was hot and dry all summer. Besides the seven days of  rain a couple weeks ago this fall has been fairly soft as it approaches winter. There were two days I noticed frost on the lawn outside the house but idk if the plants on the hills saw any of it? Besides the two spots of botrytis on the #L and the one spot on the #W everything finished free of PM and bug infestation. 

 

In #L and #W's defence they were of the first plants to finish inside and the first ones to finish outside in a friends greenhouse. Four of the mother plants went to a friends greenhouse this summer. The Black Triangle sensimilla in their greenhouse finished about two weeks ago.

 

The seed plants on the hill stayed out as long as possible for seed development. I would have let them stay out a little longer but the rains are coming tonight...we had a good chance for it last night aready.

 

I did some early sampling of the dried indoor flowers over the jar burpings. So far #L, #D, #W and #P had my attention from the early cure full flavor. #L is holds a bright lemon flavor all the way through,  #D has the floor cleaner thing going on. #D was also one of the smallest yielding plants indoors but she does great outdoors with an even stronger floor cleaner scent than she expressed inside. #W has a unique orange citrus scent that's not coming through on the smoke yet but it's smooth and calming with this creamy hash finish. I'm hoping a little orange will develope over that creamy hash. #W may have been a little too dry going into the jar. #P has a light citrus flavor over a full rich flavor hash undertone. All these above specimens have the full sinus coating flavor so far...we'll get back to them in a couple months.

 

The final photos of the Black Triangle. It's on to seed collecting for the next week as the plants finish drying.

Black Triangle #P. Harvested on 10/17.

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Black Triangle #L. Harvested on 10/17.

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Black Triangle #W. Harvested on 10/18.

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Black Triangle #O. Harvested on 10/19.

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Black Triangle #E. Harvested on 10/19.

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Black Triangle #R. Harvested on 10/19.

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Black Triangle #B. Harvested on 10/21. These photos are from a couple weeks ago...some how I missed her on harvest day.

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Black Triangle #C. Harvested on 10/21.

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Black Triangle #U. Harvested on 10/21. 

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Black Triangle #D. Harvested on 10/22.

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Black Triangle #F. Harvested on 10/22.

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Black Triangle #S. Harvested on 10/22

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Noodle x Boysenberry. Harvested on 10/23.

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Here's the Noodle x Boysenberry in a field 15 minutes away from the hill...without seeds. This field gets full days of sun but the plant went out late in the season with very little attention. So far this plant does well wherever she goes. The Noodle mom was very resistant to PM and bug infestations indoors, some of that may have carried over.

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experience responsibly,

peace

 

 

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Greetings eveyone, hope you're all well medicated...if that's your thing. 

 

I'm in the middle of shucking seeds and the prcess I choose is a bit tedious ot say the least.

 

This is the set up i'm playing with atm. All the plants were roughly wet trimmed before they were hung. After bucking it off the branches the majority of the plant material is broken up and dumped on to the parchment paper in the home made pizza box...they're used for drying resin glands. The parchment helps save some of the trichomes for later processing.  After that I try to shake the loose seeds to the bottom of the pile and than pinch a little of the plant material off the top of the pile and go through it closer in the small bowl. The seedless biomass goes into the large bowl. 

 

I was wondering what others do for their seed collecting projects? I'm looking for any suggestions to streamline this process...besides fathering a bunch of munchkins that will do it for an allowance!

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Thank you for the consideration,

kind

 

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Hey @Kind024, isn’t medicating the gist of this place?

lol..

Nice looking seeds.

every try a spaghetti colander?

The plastic ones with the larger openings?

That should let unneeded  plant material drop through while keeping viable seed separated.

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1 hour ago, Kind024 said:

Greetings eveyone, hope your all well medicated...if that's your thing. 

 

I'm in the middle of shucking seeds and the prcess I choose is a bit tedious ot say the least.

 

This is the set up i'm playing with atm. All the plants were roughly wet trimmed before they were hung. After bucking it off the branches the majority of the plant material is broken up it's dumped on to the parchment in the home made pizza box...they're used for drying resin glands. The parchment helps save some of the trichomes for later processing.  After that I try to shake the loose seeds to the bottom of the pile and than pinch a little of the plant material off the top of the pile and go through it closer in the small bowl. The seedless biomass goes into the large bowl. 

 

I was wondering what others do for their seed collecting projects? I'm looking for any suggestions to streamline this process...besides fathering a bunch of munchins that will do it for an allowance!

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Thank you for the consideration,

kind

 

@Kind024  I do something similar.  I take a handful of plant matter and seeds, put it in a bowl and begin to move the bowl in a circular motion (almost like panning for gold) causing the seeds and plant matter to get some movement.  As you are doing this tilt the bowl towards you just a bit while moving the bowl in the circular motion and blow your breath to a point that the leaf material go with the breath and will separate from the seeds, and the seeds will move towards you due to the tilt, and the dry plant material will gather at the upper portion of your bowl......this also works in a pie tin.  When there is some separation push out the plant material and you can gather the seeds from that small bit of material....then repeat!  (Hope this makes sense)

 

 You will have to do it a bit at a time but I work with about the same as you got going there....turn on some tunes and enjoy!

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I normally I pass off seeded bud to a few trusted friends to enjoy with the qualifier that they get nothing else until they have returned the seeds in the labeled bag I gave it to them in.  Not to be a fool, I also split crosses between different people and also keep track of what strains/crosses I gave to whom as there is always the inevitable screw up. 

 

For the stuff that is seeded but rough looking, or when I have more material than they can process, I let the seeded flowers dry in the A/C until they are about 40% RH (cause that's about as dry as I can get them in a couple weeks).  I then rub the flowers loosely between nitrile gloved hands over a container and then it's pretty easy to separate the seed from the plant material with a credit card.  I really try not to break the material up any more than necessary to dislodge the seeds - at that level of dryness it's really not that hard once you get a feel for it.

 

The seed gets set out to dry in the A/C for another two weeks and then further aging before germ testing and the plant material gets frozen for dry ice hash extraction.

 

There are many ways to approach this task, what works best for your environmental conditions is probably best for you.

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On 10/26/2018 at 1:45 PM, Ilynnboy said:

Hey @Kind024, isn’t medicating the gist of this place?

lol..

Nice looking seeds.

every try a spaghetti colander?

The plastic ones with the larger openings?

That should let unneeded  plant material drop through while keeping viable seed separated.

I guess that would be an underlining primer :getting-stoned:...these Black Triangle will get you there too! I've been taking frequent trips to the moon on some of the finger hash from the handling process. A proper wash is going to be outstanding. The colander idea...it was a game changer, thank you. I ran across the one below in the cupboard.

 

 

On 10/26/2018 at 3:12 PM, GoodEnergyGrower said:

@Kind024  I do something similar.  I take a handful of plant matter and seeds, put it in a bowl and begin to move the bowl in a circular motion (almost like panning for gold) causing the seeds and plant matter to get some movement.  As you are doing this tilt the bowl towards you just a bit while moving the bowl in the circular motion and blow your breath to a point that the leaf material go with the breath and will separate from the seeds, and the seeds will move towards you due to the tilt, and the dry plant material will gather at the upper portion of your bowl......this also works in a pie tin.  When there is some separation push out the plant material and you can gather the seeds from that small bit of material....then repeat!  (Hope this makes sense)

 

 You will have to do it a bit at a time but I work with about the same as you got going there....turn on some tunes and enjoy!

Yes, that makes perfect sense thank you. I wanted to apply that same method on a large cookie sheet but they all have a little oil residue that I didn't want to spend the alcohol on to clean. So far a cardboard box on tilt with parchment has been effective. I bridged off the panning idea to a sluice box method but in this case letting the goods by and holding the unwanted material.

Lots of tunes and audiobooks...the music app is getting a workout. Thank you for the progression brother.

 

 

On 10/26/2018 at 8:57 PM, dawn patrol said:

I normally I pass off seeded bud to a few trusted friends to enjoy with the qualifier that they get nothing else until they have returned the seeds in the labeled bag I gave it to them in.  Not to be a fool, I also split crosses between different people and also keep track of what strains/crosses I gave to whom as there is always the inevitable screw up. 

 

For the stuff that is seeded but rough looking, or when I have more material than they can process, I let the seeded flowers dry in the A/C until they are about 40% RH (cause that's about as dry as I can get them in a couple weeks).  I then rub the flowers loosely between nitrile gloved hands over a container and then it's pretty easy to separate the seed from the plant material with a credit card.  I really try not to break the material up any more than necessary to dislodge the seeds - at that level of dryness it's really not that hard once you get a feel for it.

 

The seed gets set out to dry in the A/C for another two weeks and then further aging before germ testing and the plant material gets frozen for dry ice hash extraction.

 

There are many ways to approach this task, what works best for your environmental conditions is probably best for you.

Right on thank you, I dig the community method for sure. The only thing is everyone around here are still busy with end of the season chores themselves. I am definitly handling this material a bit too much for later processing at this point. I was thinking of doing the same thing as with the cardboard box except over a sieving screen? Or put the material with the seeds still in it in ketama's drum and try to find something to beat it with less aggressive than a stick, but im a little afraid of damaging some of the seeds?  Thank you for taking the time sister, it's much appreciated. 

 

 

So after processing all the above advice this is what I came up with. The material and seed is mostly seperated by hand. Than it's stirred by hand in the colander for a finer seperation, this is the end of that process. This colander has been a nice additon to the process. If there was a place to make a mess and one wasn't trying to save any fallin resins. Dropping the seeds through a slight breeze would do a nice final seperation.

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After all the beans are free from the marterial its swept to one side of the box. 

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I've been tilting the box and tapping under it with one hand while back sweeping the material with the plastic card in the other. This seems to help dislodge the beans from the material enough to get and keep them rolling. The beans always win the race across the box. The photo below was taken after the first pass. I've been doing two of these passes to get the seeds mostly clean from other plant material. There are always a few rogue beans hiding in the duff that need manual sorting. So far I can get from one hanging plant to a bag of seeds in 3 hours if I don't take regular safety breaks. 

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Thanks for all the helpful advice everyone, it's working.

 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Kind024 said:

  Thank you for taking the time sister, it's much appreciated. 

 

 

:5899aa31ab92f_Chimpaughinggif:  not taking any offense but I'm about the furthest thing from a lady.  I know the handle may lead you to think otherwise.....

 

Anyway you get the job done that works for you is all that really matters. 

 

I really enjoyed watching your journey here and I hope to run these genetics one day.  TK is one part of one of my favorite strains, Triangle Trips.

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10 hours ago, dawn patrol said:

:5899aa31ab92f_Chimpaughinggif:  not taking any offense but I'm about the furthest thing from a lady.  I know the handle may lead you to think otherwise.....

 

Anyway you get the job done that works for you is all that really matters. 

 

I really enjoyed watching your journey here and I hope to run these genetics one day.  TK is one part of one of my favorite strains, Triangle Trips.

 

Well than the joke is on me! I alpologize, this avatar gender thing always has me confused. 

 

Slowly but surely the beans are getting processed.

 

Thank you, I hope everyone who's interested gets a chance to run some of these seeds.

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Smoke reports...

 

#B) She smokes smooth, a slight citrus flavor comes through on the first puff, not much going on after that besides a soft smoke taste. The effects are on the calm side of the BT spectrum and centered mostly in the body. She did produce the second most seeds out of the bunch outside and is one of the largest producers overall indoors. All in a solid structure.

 

#C) Similar flavor as her sister #B, except she has a little more spice/pepper notes on top. The effect is a little stronger and and more awake in the head too.

 

#D) Besides being one of the smaller producers indoors she really shines outside and held the most mature seeds by volume. The flavor and effect experience are exceptional! She has layers of flavors with a lemon cleaner coming through first thing which goes away kind of quickly leaving a pleasant sinus coating hash flavor. This is when the magic happens as the lemon cleaner starts to build in the sinuses letting you know this is some good shit. As you breathe through the nose the layers of lemon cleaner and hash weave as the effects keep building...this was from single time flower hits out of a pipe. A joint is good but the lemon cleaner fades after the first couple puffs, then hash dominates the rest of the roll. The heady effects can split your wig if not mindful and the electric body effects come on immediately. 

 

#E) The flavor took a while to develope in the cure. At first it tasted lie nothing, just smoe, now it holds a nice rich burnt tire flavor. The effects are hyper focusing as they set in. The body isn't as electric as some of the others, but is a full body sensation, all the way to the toes, my roomate compares the effects to demerol. Defenitely pain nullifying! It seems to help one look at the situation from a distance, to be a viewer instead of having the experience. ...another respectable cultivar.

 

#F) I didn't run her inside due to needing clone replacments for the outdoor project. From looking at here structure and smoking the finger hash she feels hash plant dominant. One of the nicest structures outside too.

 

#L) All the above here! She has a similar experience to #D but with more of everything along with a respectable size and solid structure indoors and out. #L has a more defined and in your face lemon flavor matched with layers of tire funk taking place of the hash notes that #D carries. Both have that rich sinus coating flavor experience when smoking single flower hits from the bong or pipe. However #L holds the lemon cleaner/tire funk flavors all the way to the bone in a paper and the flavor keeps stacking in mouth and sinuses. The effects are stronger than #D and can give an overwhelming rush in the chest upon exhale. Heady and electric!

 

#O) Not much going here. Kind of bland, nothing notable on the palate. The effects are subtle and seem to lean toward the down and lethargic side of things. She may be medicinal for sleep? 

 

#P) She is another top shelf specimen. The lemon cleaner flavor takes a back seat to a pronounced tire funk that dominates the show with just a little citrus in the background...full sinus coating flavor experience. The effects are more balanced between the head and body and they come on immediately after the exhale as the face and third eye are warmed. With just enough body to hold your ground this makes for a good meditative smoke.

 

#R) I can't seem to get much flavor to come through in the cure. It smokes smooth, just not any noticable flavors, maybe it needs a few more weeks. The effect is strong with just right amount of body. I did have a hard time falling to sleep after smoking it at night.

 

#S) She seems to be on the hash plant side of the spectrum. Not much flavor coming through, the effect is sedative and body oriented. Would help with insomnia.

 

#U) She also seems to express more of the afghani/hash plant side of things. I'm having a hard time curing the flavor out in the hashplant expressions. The effects are similar to #S with the sleepy time effects. Except #U has a little couch lock prelude to the nap.

 

#W) I had my eye on this plant ever since she set resin before everyone else at the show and held a little different flower formation. She also had a unique orange tart scent. It may have been a little too dry before it went into cure...I missed the mark. The orange isn't coming though in the flavor...it's a smooth clean smoking experience just not much "Wow" after smoking. The effects are a little different too. The body is stimulated first and a little after you're done thinking "so that's it?" the head starts to open up slowly, surely and before you know it your in space!

 

The last couple weeks of curing really turned things on with this line. So far they have been curing for almost about 11 weeks. It increased the duration of effect, increased the intesity and increased the delivery of the effects....decarboxylation takes time and patience when curing.

 

Over all this f1 cross is stacked with keepers. To be honest I would have been pleased to have any one of these four, #D, #E, #L and #P... they are all good. I kept #D and #L

 

Again, the four mentioned are all outstanding in their own way. However, when I was jumping around with the jar to jar taste test #L was the one I was drawn too above all others...ive seen a few nice cultivars come through in my day. #L has the whole package and then some in her flavor and effect profile.

 

Not much of a crash after the effects calm from the electric types in this line either. Which leaves you ready for another experience! However the hash plant types can lead to a nap.

 

...simply put, the Black Triangle line is too strong for moderate smokers. But for those of us who appreciate the electric body and wig splitting effects, this one is for you.

 

 

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@Kind024, your journals and information are always a treat. I usually only end up with a few dozen beans, but I’ve always thought that with more volume I’d try to screen them, similar to making kief or bubble, just larger micron size.

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On 12/14/2018 at 11:24 AM, zombug said:

Sounds pretty nice, with some decent plants showing up. I tried a sample this summer from an outdoor dep plant, but it burned black as fuck, so yeah......

Thanks for stopping in @zombug. Definitely some top shelf specimens to be found in this line. I can't get enough of #L, filled a 25 gallon container with her this round.

 

On 12/14/2018 at 11:35 AM, Kingfish said:

@Kind024, your journals and information are always a treat. I usually only end up with a few dozen beans, but I’ve always thought that with more volume I’d try to screen them, similar to making kief or bubble, just larger micron size.

Thanks Bro, I did end up looking for some sort of sift to seperate the mature beans. The dehydrator has these plastic sheets for shelves⬇️. It works really well. It holds the most mature/well developed seeds on top. Then a quick search through the fallen debri for any worthy leftovers.

 

The second hand seeds are kept for microgreens. They can be fermented. You can boil them down and use the broth for a foliar or a soil drench, (wait for it to cool of course). The biology gets the axe when it's boiled. I like to take the cannabis micros (chopped well) and aerate them for an afternoon or overnight. Than that's strained. A fresh aloe leaf is blended with a little water/strained, mixed with the microgreen solution and applied as a foliar. I've seen some of the best results using cannabis microgreens for this compaired to other living plants or microgreens. The leftover plant biomass is good for topdressing, worm feed or composting.

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This is the Noodle x Purple Gogi f3. I think she is an outstanding cultivar but I could be bias. She needs to get out to a couple folks for opinions yet...(lets see if I can remember how the Noodle came to be...a while ago Swampthing from BBay crossed a Potrero Hill Ortega NL cut with a Clusterfunk male. Than Strayfox selected a female he dubbed Miss Stinky from some of those seeds gifted from swampthing. He dusted Miss Stinky with some pollen from a skunk va leaning male selected from Clusterfunk remix. I was blessed to test some of those seeds in '14. A female was found that was worth her weight...couldn't grow enough to supply her demand. That sounds about right.) A cut was given to some folks in Portland and they dubbed it stumptown diesel as they felt Noodle wasn't a catchy shelf name. Anyways, I grew some Purple Gogi f3's Bodhi released in late '15 or early '16. A couple males took forever to show in veg, over 80 days. One of these males had a little green stamen. That stamen was smushed into a flower of the Noodle while she was in early bloom. One viable seed came from that, this is it. She is totally different than mom. She runs past 80 days indoors with a nice sour berry smell and taste. Very heady with a warm hug for support. Idk if she will totally finish outside but she will have plenty of viable seeds. Some will go out with the second generation Black Triangle seeds...the universe willing. Our fall can be very trying on late season finishing plants. Cold and rainy. I'm sure they're will be plenty of seeds to play with at the end of the season either way.

 

 

Sounds absolutely incredible brother @Kind024, would you consider this a Gogi OG backcross with “The Noodle”? Been curious about Gogi for a while now. I did acquire Kinetic’s Gogi OG x Durban x Floji (Affluent OG?) I’m psyched the sifting worked out with your seeds. I have heard of a few cats using a homemade separator with air blowing up (the seeds are heavier which end up in collection at the base while the lighter plant material gets blown into a separate net screen. Probably need to be doing  big volume to even consider this technique.

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Thanks Bro, I did end up looking for some sort of sift to seperate the mature beans. The dehydrator has these plastic sheets for shelves⬇️. It works really well. It holds the most mature/well developed seeds on top. Then a quick search through the fallen debri for any worthy leftovers.

 

The second hand seeds are kept for microgreens. They can be fermented. You can boil them down and use the broth for a foliar or a soil drench, (wait for it to cool of course). The biology gets the axe when it's boiled. I like to take the cannabis micros (chopped well) and aerate them for an afternoon or overnight. Than that's strained. A fresh aloe leaf is blended with a little water/strained, mixed with the microgreen solution and applied as a foliar. I've seen some of the best results using cannabis microgreens for this compaired to other living plants or microgreens. The leftover plant biomass is good for topdressing, worm feed or composting.

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That is brilliant with the dehydrator liner, the size looks perfect, I have a few of these around as well. I’m always digging and appreciate very much - the information nuggets @Kind024

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18 hours ago, Kingfish said:

Sounds absolutely incredible brother @Kind024, would you consider this a Gogi OG backcross with “The Noodle”? Been curious about Gogi for a while now. I did acquire Kinetic’s Gogi OG x Durban x Floji (Affluent OG?) I’m psyched the sifting worked out with your seeds. I have heard of a few cats using a homemade separator with air blowing up (the seeds are heavier which end up in collection at the base while the lighter plant material gets blown into a separate net screen. Probably need to be doing  big volume to even consider this technique.

Thanks I hope those hold some goodness.  The Noodle x Boysenberry (aka Gogi f3) would be considered a poly-hybrid I believe...a cross between two non-stabilized hybrids. Both parents are already a cross of poly-hybrids parents. I don't know if that's considered a multi poly-hybrid at that point. Except "multi poly-hybrid" isn't in the correct nomencature...

 

Now that the Black Triangle went into the Noodle x Boysenberry the 88g13/HP is over lapping a bit, but it's still not considered a back-cross.

 

I found this quote on back crossing..."In back crossing you have a donor parent (has a gene of interest) and a recurrent parent (an elite line that could be made better by adding the gene of interest). The donor parent is crossed to the recurrent parent. The progeny of this cross is then crossed to the recurrent parent (it is 'crossed back' to the recurrent parent, hence the term back cross). The progeny of this cross is selected for the trait of interest and then crossed back to the recurrent parent. This process is repeated for as many back crosses as are needed to create a line that is the recurrent parent with the gene of interest from the donor parent. The goal of backcrossing is to obtain a line as identical as possible to the recurrent parent with the addition of the gene of interest that has been added through breeding."

 

I've seen some of those seed seperaters, they would be handy for a larger volume.  I was thinking of a box for the seeds to fall and a fan blowing over the box. Just need something to catch the debri, unless you could do it outside and let it blow away?

 

The Noodle x Boysenberry bulking up and getting ready for flowers.

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Update on the Black Triangle done Malawi Cob Style.

 

These cured for 3 months sealed in a vacum bag after the ferment.  When smoking it the effects developed into a much deeper body exprience, very medicinal for me. Makes all your limbs and digits vibrate and expand from the inside. Some of the electric heady effects that are present in the non-fermented flowers are dulled in the fermented smoke. The fermentation changed the flavors a little too, just made them different, hard to explain. It did enhance the flavor of the already less tasty flowers. Both #L and #P so far taste great with or without a fermentation. It did make #U taste better. They are a real treat.

 

The experience really turns on when you eat this stuff, I had to pull up my socks. It takes you on a magic carpet to cruz around the waves in the galactic current sheet. It's an all day event for me. #L won't let you sleep after you eat it. I was up all night. It expands the head and holds it up when eaten. #L can give a bit of a rush in the chest when smoking and more when eating it. The potency is somewhere between a strong coconut oil and an alchohol extract. Definitely a good ride and a very fulfilling experience. Glad I gave it a try. Definitely going to keep making cobs.

 

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Hunter S. Thompson

“No sympathy for the devil; keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride...and if it occasionally gets a little heavier than what you had in mind, well...maybe chalk it up to forced consciousness expansion: Tune in, freak out, get beaten.” ― Hunter S. Thompson, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas

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Black Triangle #L getting ready for flowers. Scents of sweet lemon candies.

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Kinda like a weed tamale.😎

Never seen that done before, thanks!

I have read about it several times.

 

So it is less trippy so to speak.

Is there any mold on the cob cured stuff?

Were the buds ground before the cobs put on?

I wonder what chemical compounds we owe to the change in buzz?

 

Thanks in advance.

Shag

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7 hours ago, shaggyballs said:

Kinda like a weed tamale.😎

Never seen that done before, thanks!

I have read about it several times.

 

So it is less trippy so to speak.

Is there any mold on the cob cured stuff?

Were the buds ground before the cobs put on?

I wonder what chemical compounds we owe to the change in buzz?

 

Thanks in advance.

Shag

 

 

nice looking cob @Kind024!!

 

 

@shaggyballs  Big thread over at the mag, I think the dudes name is Tangwena or something like that.  End effect is largely impacted by the strain your working with and the environment you sweat or cure the cobs in .

 

I tried it briefly a couple years ago and the effects for me were just devastating.  that said, I have no real tolerance and rarely have the luxury of having a complete day wrecked by ingesting anything.  Smoking a bit of hash or eating an edible just wipes me out so I rarely get to do it.

 

Can't wait until I'm fully retired and can start doing it when I feel like it though 😁

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19 hours ago, shaggyballs said:

So it is less trippy so to speak.

Is there any mold on the cob cured stuff?

Were the buds ground before the cobs put on?

I wonder what chemical compounds we owe to the change in buzz?

It can give psychedelic effects, but not like a handful of fungus will.

 

@dawn patrol that's the way I understand it too. The effects in the end are mainly due to the type you start with. Can't wait to try it with some 14 -16 week NLD.

I look forward to hear about your all day adventures in "forced consciousness expansion". . .some day when your retired of course.

 

Mold shouldn't grow in the vacume bag if it's sealed properly. All the cobs in the photo came out good. I don't know what the white color on the husk is from. It doesnt rub off and they all smell sweet, no sour. There were two that went sour during fermentation because the bags didn't seal well and air got to them, it only takes a few hours of air exposure. You can smell a very distinct foul, sour odor when they go bad.

 

The buds need to be alive and moist. The living microbes on the surface of the flowers and the husk do the all the work. I think he recommends starting with around 80% moisture content? I didn't chop them up at all. I used mostly the lower growth popcorn nuggets and just pulled the crows feet off. 44 grams of wet buds were pressed into a single corn husk. A thick calender cover was used to roll them up like a dollar bill is used to roll a joint. It takes a little finesse and elbow grease to work it down to fit in the husk. You want to get as much air out as possible. The husk will need to be adjusted throughout the process to keep it tidy.

 

I don't know what's happening chemically during fermentaion or curing process, it's all relative. They tested the jar cured flowers and a cob from the same plant. The THC levels are way up on the cobbed flowers, more decarboxylation. Then again the flowers are heated/activated to about 100F - 104F for 8 - 12 hours. Then fermented for 24 hours or so at around 82F. The heat is going to help the curve along.  The temperatures and times all play a major roll in the finished product as well. Tangwena describes it like batches of wine. Some just turn out better then others and they can't be recreated.

 

I was thinking of spraying some kitchen made Lacto-B on a couple cobs from the next batch. ? .kick start the fermentation process.

 

This will explain it better. Thanks for taking the time to share the information @Tangwena. https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?threadid=309172

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